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    So do any of you play PDS titles like Europa Universalis or Crusader Kings? EUIV quickly became my most played game of all time starting about two years ago, with nearly 1500 hours in it. I also have CKII and Victoria II, and some of their other published stuff like Knights of Pen and Paper. Aside from one long campaign in CKII, though, it's still mostly been EUIV.

    I also watch a lot of youtube LPs for the games, both to learn and to be entertained. I've probably watched like 150+ hours of LPs, maybe 200ish. It's fun watching players who know the games so thoroughly just go nuts, and it helps me become a better player as well.

    This is one of my recent campaigns; well, from a few months ago:
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    I started as Sweden under the Kalmar Union and quickly rebelled from Denmark before conquering Scandinavia and the surrounding lands. This was in ironman, so I could get some new achievements.

    Right now I'm playing in the late-late game as a custom Swiss nation, before updating to the new patch and probably playing a Muslim or something.

    If any of you play these games, we could mp sometime. I think I'm a decent if not remarkable player, though I have done some things I'm really proud of. Really, though, I just want to gauge the level of interest for this type of thing around here.
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    Can't say I've ever played them myself, but it would definitely be something I'd like to check out if I had more time. Hopefully someone around here is a player and can get in some multiplayer with you!

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    Yeah, these are definitely games that are really involving and require some decent investment to get the hang of. Even now in EUIV, after 1400 hours playing, 13ish long campaigns, and hundreds of hours watching videos, there are still things I don't fully grasp. I understand most of the mechanics very well- certainly enough to do very well in the game- but I know there are some things that I could be doing better. If you do get into it, though, it can be vastly rewarding as it's basically one big history sandbox to do what you want.

    Here's another campaign of mine from around February, also in ironman:
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    The Japanese Hegemonic Empire. I also own Australia/NZ. I started as the Daimyo Hosokawa domain and united Japan in about thirty years, then went colonial, whilst eating some delicious Korean and Manchurian clay. I got really lucky that Muscovy failed and so didn't colonize; Russia was later formed by a rarely successful Novgorod, which eventually colonized and met me in Siberia. I also share a dyansty with my allies Bahmanis.

    One of my easier campaigns aside from some hiccups in the mid-game, since a lot of it was just colonizing.

    Here's Europe at the end of that game:
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    That Brandenburg blob is the kind of thing that happens when you play outside of Europe... and of course the Commonwealth and especially France are always very scary regardless. The Ottomans are generally either scary or a bit more subdued like this.
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    Hey so over two years later and I've about doubled my play-time with roughly 2700 hours. Much better than I was here, though still with much I could get better in. The game has changed a lot through updates and DLC in the meantime. Posting more stuff to drum up interest and show off a bit.

    Here's one of my favorite empires, from fall 2016. I started as Malacca on the tip of the Malay peninsula and eventually became the dominant power in east and southeast Asia, with colonial holdings all over the world. I've had some empires that were significantly more powerful, but in terms of how it looked in the end, it's probably the final borders I'm proudest of/happiest with.

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    This is right when I formed the nation of Malaya after conquering/colonizing the required provinces, about 90 years after game start. It only snowballed from here over the following 290 years left in game.

    These were my core Asian borders in the end:
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    As you can see I conquered all of southern China and SEA, and was digging into southern India. The two small colors on my northeast Chinese border and my northwest Burmese border were client states I created as it was the only way to get the lands I wanted in time in the last few years, but I consider them part of my main borders. There are a handful of things I missed that I wanted (the Andamans owned by France, Rabual owned by Spain, and the rest of southern India from yellow Vijayanagar) but on the whole this was exactly how I envisioned my empire looking like in the end and what I was aiming for, complete with stopping halfway through Japan. In the end this is where the Paradox player becomes a bit of an artist in their quest for Pretty Borders, though it's not especially important from a gameplay perspective.

    I've also got Australia and New Zealand (minorly helpful), South Africa, Madagascar, and Angola (somewhat vital strategically), and Greenland, Alaska, eastern Siberia, about 1/4 of Brazil, and a bit of northern Canada (mostly all completely useless to me, but it was something to do later on). A game well spent!

    If you really want to see true powerhouses though you'd have to check out my Ottoman, GB, and Florence>Tuscany>Italy>Roman Empire games. Ottos were a military monster, GB was fantastically rich and spread all over the globe, and the eventual Roman Empire was the best of all worlds, eventually dwarfing all other powers in strength and owning most of Europe and more besides.

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    Look at that! Trajan would be proud! Except maybe about Cornwall. Damn Frenchies, they got an endgame reprieve.

    Right now I'm on kicking the white man out of North America as the mighty Cherokee nation and all is good.

    I'd love for this kind of thing to pique someone's interest here because I'm always down for an mp or just helping someone out. Paradox games are a ton of fun to play with lots of versatility and possibility. I don't just play Europa Universalis. I play a lot of Stellaris (space game with 4X elements) and Crusader Kings (middle ages with RPG elements) as well. There's also Victoria (Victorian era, crazy complicated and still intimidating to me) and Hearts of Iron (WWII era; I don't have the current iteration yet but supposed to be relatively simple to play) as well. So if anyone is interested in trying these out, please let me know and I'll help you out since it can take a lot of figuring out.
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    Holy crap, that’s a lot of time, man.

    I haven’t got the stomach for it anymore.
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    Yeah they're an investment, that's no mistake. It took a lot of time to get to where I am, as well as reading on the wiki, watching LPs fun and tips, and browsing the forums. The games are pretty intricate but the community is really awesome and helpful! At this point I feel reasonably confident trying out almost any nation in EU4 and having fun with it.

    I know what you mean that you can't always put all that time into something like this. Still, if you can find the time I personally find it pretty rewarding, even thrilling sometimes. The game has come a long way and despite some minor missteps on the whole the updates have greatly improved it and made it a more immersive experience.

    I would actually say that CKII might be the better game, though, even though I don't have nearly as much play-time and am not as proficient in it. It's a game that knows what it is and has stuck to it throughout its development and updates. The stories created by leading your dynasty can be wild, which is what really makes it stand out. And the score is fantastic.

    Then there's Stellaris which is a really solid space 4X with the usual Paradox grand strategy elements. It was arguably missing some content at launch, especially in the mid-game, but it's been fleshed out a lot and there was a huge update recently that overhauled a lot of things. It's one of the best games I've found for that feeling of exploring the stars while vying for supremacy, a strong blend of ST and SW elements really. It also looks gorgeous.
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